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what do I do to make money and I always say if you're starting out you don't have any money you need to make money clients is probably one of the easiest ways to do it um but if you want to end up you know getting to a point where you don't have to do anything clients is kind of not in my opinion the way to do it because at some point you're not going to want to do client work you know so I know a lot of people that have clients it kind of just depends on what stage you're at you know you might be at like the very beginning which at that point you probably want clients if you're like at the point where you're like oh I'm at 10 20K a month but I hate my life you know then you probably want to have less clients and start focusing on diversifying.